marijuana- good? bad?

topic posted Sun, May 7, 2006 - 4:56 PM by  lunatic
Does it help or hurt anxiety disorders?
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lunatic
SF Bay Area
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    Sun, May 7, 2006 - 7:16 PM
    for some people it helps alot. for some people it's the worst thing they could be doing. it really depends on alot. for me it stimulates appetite, which is great cause it helps me be less anxious if i eat enough. it also helps with chronic pain i have better than anything else. i also have a friend who uses it for anxiety and pain and all of her friends agree that without pot she would be unbearable cause she isn't the most friendly sort when anxious or in pain (both good reasons for cranky).

    i have another friend who gets super paranoid on pot and so for her it would be terrible for anxiety.

    i have heard that lots of long term habitual users run into a time where pot stops really working to help anxiety and actually leads to more, but that is usually after years and years of daily use.
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    Sun, May 7, 2006 - 11:07 PM
    the after affects of marijuana can cause anxiety... but it really depends on your system i think... for me i can't smoke it. i get way too paranoid and start feeling as if i am either going crazy or dying... so after a year or so of habitual use, i quit cold turkey and have been better because of it ever since. i also know people that find it very comforting and take refuge in it when anxious...
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      Mon, May 8, 2006 - 12:50 AM
      yes , i think i would have to agree that it depends on the person , some it's great some it's terible it would probubly take some sort of scientific study to figure out the nuts and bolts of of the whys and hows.
      also it think i'd have to agree that the one real constant is that extended and extended overuse can cals problems (unlike other scyiatric medications:) i think that a good way to aviod that is to look at it not as "geting high" but as simpley taking your medication, the same as if you had high blood presure or soul cancer ... :)
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    Mon, May 8, 2006 - 2:35 AM
    Most people aren't actually made anxious by marijuana, but by the PCP it is usually laced with.

    Creepy, eh?
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      Mon, May 8, 2006 - 3:18 AM
      ummmm.
      always know your suplyer is all i can think to say. that and, if you can't find a suplyer who you can realy trust (at least enuf to know he's not lasing your stuff) then drink a bear insted.
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        Mon, May 8, 2006 - 3:42 AM
        other creepy things peaple lase weed with:: bug spray (raid for cocroaches), enbalming fluid, ground plastic pouder, ground vicodine, ground ritilin, lsd (i could swer i saw the face of god) siriusly i've actualy known peaple who have used all of these things. i didn't like them i just knew them.
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          Mon, May 8, 2006 - 9:59 AM
          i have lived most of my adult life in places where i did not need to worry about what the pot was laced with. i have had some unpleasant reactions to some of the hydroponic chemicals that it is grown in sometimes, so i try to get organically grown stuff now.
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            Re: marijuana- good? bad?

            Mon, May 8, 2006 - 12:45 PM
            For me its okay on a slow afternoon that I had nothing to do, and not to do it very often,
            but i simply cannot socialize in public after smoking so I avoid it at all costs in public.
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          Mon, May 8, 2006 - 12:51 PM
          just another lovely reason why they should legalize it....
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            Thu, May 11, 2006 - 2:32 PM
            Unfortunately, it's not very good for me. I went from smoking all the time with my boyfriend to nothing at all, thanks to anxiety. miss it sometimes, but it really makes things so much worse! hopefully the connection I have made between pot and anxiety with magically disappear this summer!
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          Fri, January 25, 2008 - 9:36 AM
          Eeuuww, Starbuck, I am SO glad I don't do the marijuana thing after reading this! That's disgusting! Actually, I have an allergy toward marijuana so it never became a question of trying medicinal pot or not.

          But, as to the PCP, I thought that was the active ingredient in marijuna, itself. I know, of course, that it is often refined to pure PCP; maybe that is what some pot is laced with? I mean, on top of what is already there?
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            Fri, January 25, 2008 - 3:45 PM
            99% of pot is NOT 'laced' with anything ... even if you obtain it in "the hood"
            that'd be bad for business ...
            And NO it's active ingredient is NOT 'pcp'
            It's a multitude of cannabinoids ... and different strains have different effects...
            Sativas are more 'heady' speedy and energizing
            Indicas are more calming/tranquilizing and mood stabilizing , best case ...

            Pot on the street is usually a 50/50 hybrid of both or leaning towards the sativa end ...
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      Sat, May 13, 2006 - 12:13 AM
      many people ARE actually made anxious by non-laced pot. most everything i get is not laced (i know the grower, the dealer, it's organically grown in clean soil). still, it make some people anxious. the friend whom it makes paranoid still gets paranoid if she smokes this totally clean stuff.
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        Sat, May 13, 2006 - 12:21 AM
        Robin, thank you for clearing this up for me. I thought it was just the additives. Of course different people would have different reactions.

        I know how surprised my friend was to test positive for PCP when all she does is smoke pot. Then I found out how common that practice was with cheap weed. Scary.
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          Sat, May 13, 2006 - 9:52 AM
          Every time I've tried it it actually makes me have panic attacks, and I'm paranoid and tense for at least a couple of hours. My question is if it is laced with bad stuff like pcp, why is it that I can share with someone else and it totally relaxes them. Does pcp cause some people to relax and laugh uncontrollably and make other people paranoid?
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            Sun, May 14, 2006 - 12:03 AM
            Carlos, it is probably just the actual pot that makes you paranoid. Paranoia was talked about as an effect for some people well over 200 years ago when it was unlikely pot was laced with PCP.
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    Sat, May 13, 2006 - 10:21 AM
    For anxiety, very very bad! Haven't you ever heard of getting "the oh nos"? Oh no, what if someones knows I'm high. Oh what if I have to go to the hostpilo and they report me as high. Oh no what if....
    Patrick
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      Sat, May 13, 2006 - 10:10 PM
      Sounds like OCD + marijuana would be a very very bad thing. ;)
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        Sun, May 14, 2006 - 12:05 AM
        I have a friend who smokes and has OCD and it actually helps for her. Pot allows her to really focus on something else more pleasurable that the OCD spins she sometimes gets into. I don't recommend it for everyone, though, cause smoking things can cause heat conditions that lead to issues with digestion and dehydration, regardless of what you smoke.
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    Sat, May 13, 2006 - 11:56 PM
    I have a few freinds that still use it to help with anxiety. But I can't handle it anymore, I really really really miss it too along with lots of caffinated tea!
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      Fri, July 14, 2006 - 7:16 PM
      I have been smoking for ten years- sometimes daily and sometimes I go for a year at a time without smoking and I have never experienced any laced pot. I used to live in NH- where the weed was pretty crappy usually. Now in the Bay Area, I can obtain in legally (somewhat) for my migraines. I am thinking for me that it helps with anxiety. I do worry about becoming dependent- but i would rather use marijuana than pop an ativan.
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        Thu, January 24, 2008 - 5:45 PM
        hey guys, I posted this at the Marijuana Anxiety tribe but wanted to mention it here as well, it's an update on my feelings about Marijuana and anxiety.

        update:

        I actually got myself a prescription for MM for my anxiety this last week. When i picked up my first batch of medicine I specifically asked for good strains for anxiety, in other words an Indica that would give me a body high and not an uppy head trip that would cause a panic attack.

        i am pleased to say that it worked, I have been really enjoying being able to smoke small amounts and feel good about it. I missed having the munchies sometimes and i have to say that it also helped my stop thinking about my anxiety. That has been my big problem with anxiety lately is that even though I haven't had an attack in about a year and overall I am feeling pretty good, I still worry about when it might start again so I am mentally exhausted from being so vigilant. This gave me a break from that, I got high and had a good laugh, it was great.

        If any of you try herb again start with something you are sure is an Indica and go easy, you just might be able to enjoy it again :)
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    Thu, January 24, 2008 - 9:20 PM
    I smoke everyday..I suffer from OCD and Anxiety disorder..It has helped me so much that Its part of my well being plan.I have friends who also suffer from ADD and ADHD.They say it really helps them too..Just throwing in my 2 cents..
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    Fri, January 25, 2008 - 5:18 PM
    I am pretty sure that The pot I smoke isn't lace with anything..Of,course I live in a smaller town.I worry more about the bug spray that they may have put on it.I have been smoking for awhile now.I would say that its a choice.If it helps great.If it makes things worse then for goodness sakes doen't do it..
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      Sat, January 26, 2008 - 5:13 AM
      um, ya, most pot is not lased, thats not usualy gona hapen unless the person you are geting it from is an asshole and of if you are buying it in the suberbs or in a small town away from any medium sised citys wer somone mite be motivated to try and stretch ther suply, since the medical merijawana laws wer pased these things have become almost unherd of in california.

      pcp and merijawana are tow very difrent things, pcp calses a strong sence of disasosiation from ones self.

      weed contains a mild halucinagen (witch provides the bulk of the efect it has) since it's a halucination it is very very very subject to what a person thinks it will do.
      if your hole life you wer raised in the dare program and or you have been inundated with horor storys than those fears will likly manifest and you will likley freak right the fuck out. if you sinceraly on a deep level belive that it is throo some pop science explanation going to melow you out than it will probubly do that. in the end it will simly act as a triger for the thot paterns that your mind has liked to it, in the same sence that a strong distinctive sent will triger a mood or memory that you asociate with that smell , it's the same principle only much much stronger since instead of indirectly trigering a stimulus reflex response in your brain cemistry it is directly cemicaly altering your brain cemistry.

      in sort , it is difrent for each person, if you try it and it works for you then that is awsome, if you try it and it dose not work than go try somthing else . iether chioce if fine as long as you do not try to exert undu influence on other peaples desition.

      each person has to make up ther own mind on this one.
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        Sat, January 26, 2008 - 11:06 AM
        What you say is somewhat true in regard to it being a hallucinogen that will only amplify your expectations (or perhaps bring out thoughts in your subconscious). But at the same time there is a science behind why Indicas have a different effect then Sativas overall due to a difference in chemical compounds.
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          Sun, January 27, 2008 - 4:23 AM
          please elaborate. (i'm not being sarcastic)

          is the difence in the absorbtion of the halucinagen? or is it that the other cemicals them selfs cary an intoxicating efect, becals if any other cemical than thc if actualy creating the high , rather than simply altering the effect of the thc, than , well , that would suport the idea of keeping hemp iligal,

          in my opinion and experience , the real prolem peaple with anxiety run into, or rather , the mistake they make is in smoking "green and sticky" rather than first prperly aging ther weed before use. in my experiences with medical weed, that made all the difrence in the world, it didn't mater if it was a nug or train wreck roled in hash oil and keef , if you aged it properly before use it would be the mmost melow high you ever had, the only reson it gets sold "green and sticky" is becals that sonds more exiting to a consumer minded person than "properly aged and ready to be smoked in moderation"`.
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            Sun, January 27, 2008 - 4:31 AM
            along my previus line of thinking , when i refered to weed as a way to activate thot paterns, maybe it would be a good idea to try combining hypno therapy and cognitive response therapy with medical weed, after the therapy way complete you could use the weed as a triger to triger the sugestions implanted and the thot paerns learned in the therapy. i know they somtimes use sents to the same end, so perhaps it would work. to bad i'm not a phyce major, then i'd know how to properly reserch and test that idea.
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            Mon, January 28, 2008 - 1:43 AM
            for one hemp for fiber uses has less then .3% cbd cannabinoids and no Psychoactivity. regular herb is something totally different. I am trying to find the article on the effects on the two stains on a study they did with mice but untill I recall the seach string I used I can say that the gist of it seemed that it has to do with the cbd ratios. It's in some article like this one but I can't find the whole thing...

            www.sciencedirect.com/science
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              Mon, January 28, 2008 - 1:50 AM
              books.google.com/books

              another piece, more or less thc without cbd is more likely to produce anxiety becuase of this...

              Mean THC levels and the frequency of BT were significantly higher in C. indica than C. sativa. The proportion of high THC/CBD chemotype plants in most accessions assigned to C. sativa was <25% and in most accessions assigned to C. indica was >25%. Plants with relatively high levels of tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV) and/or cannabidivarin (CBDV) were common only in C. indica. This study supports a two-species concept of Cannabis.
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                Tue, January 29, 2008 - 3:35 AM
                oh ya, i meen i get that part (the jist of it any-who) what i'm asking is about the absorbtion and matabolisation of the thc and canidoids thingys. did the study sugest anything about the nature of the link between the tow things?

                i think merinol prooved that strait thc of even sintisised thc equivients or thc derivitives alone wer more likly to increase anxiety, thats why they don't percribe it any more.

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